Thanks again Daniel for making sense of my nonsense
I think your right I have allready planned my return journey trips and I think I would need at least a month or too
Haha I talk as much as I write but I'm glad you enjoy my ramblings
I am going to leave it this time I just looks so amazing
So that brings me onto my next question
My final intinery is similar to what you mentioned
2 days in Tokyo arrival and one full day
One day in Nagano- overnight if I can't get the train to Hiroshima overnight or a late night train
1 night Hiroshima
1 night Osaka/ sightseeing in koyoto
1 night Kyoto, Arishiyama/ sagano
And 3 nights I have no plans
So.. Here is the long bit some copied from websites
“Shirahama Ohama beach 27/03 from Kyoto/Osaka/Tokyo JRP”
chocabloczilla · 239 forum posts
Yumigahama or shirahama beach
Shirahama Ohama beach (seems like the nicest most accessible beach from the station) bus or walk from shimoda station, I have seen that the JRP does not fully cover travel to shimoda but can only find Info from Ito to shimoda which says its ¥1600 I think one way.
Route, schedule and time required
These express trains connects Tokyo with Atami in 1hour 30 minutes, Tokyo with Izukyu-Shimoda in 2 hours and 30 to 50 minutes,
Tokyo and Izukyu-Shimoda –3 round trips
2 of above 3 trips are combined with the trains to Shuzenji
Super View Odoriko
Tokyo and Izukyu-Shimoda — 3 scheduled round trips
From Shinjuku to Izukyu-Shimoda — 1 trip (depart from Ikebukuro on weekend)
From Izukyu-Shimoda to Ikebukuro — 1 trip
Omiya and Izukyu-Shimoda — 1 round trip on weekend only
Super view ordoriko or ordoriko s covered with the JRP from Tokyo/ shinjuku to izukuyu shimoda
Restriction for Japan Rail Pass users
Odoriko and Super View Odoriko are operated on Non Japan Railway line too. These trains are operated on Izu-Kyuko line from Ito to Izukyu-Shimoda and Izu-Hakone Railways from Mishima to Shuzenji. If you take these express train on Izu-Kyuko line or Izu-Hakone Railways, you need to pay extra fare.
Extra fare table for Izu-Kyuko line
Basic fare from Ito (伊東) Limited express surcharge
Izu-Kogen (伊豆高原) 640yen reserved 500yen / non-reserved 400yen
Izu-Atagawa (伊豆熱川) 970yen
Izu-Inatori (伊豆稲取) 1,150yen
Kawazu (河津) 1,330yen
Izukyu-Shimoda (伊豆急下田) 1,570yen
Extra fare table for Izu-Hakone Railways
Basic fare from Mishima (三島) Limited express surcharge
Mishima-Tamachi (三島田町) 130yen No extra surcharge
And we have one more restriction when you take Green compartment on Super View Odoriko. Even Japan Rail Pass for Green class user cannot take Green compartment without the surcharge. The surcharge is 6,000yen per a compartment. Green compartment can accommodate up to 4 passengers.
If you cannot catch Odoriko, take Shinkansen to Mishima and transfer to Izu-Hakone Railway. But it is same story as Atami. There is no Nozomi stopping at Mishima. Hikari is available but number of trains are very limited. Mostly Kodama is the best train.
From Osaka, Kyoto, Nagoya or any cities in west part of Japan
It is same scenario as going to Atami. You can take Shinkansen to Mishima and transfer to local train of Izu-Hakone Railway. But Hikari stopping at Mishima is very limited. Try to find Hikari stops at Shizuoka or Atami and transfer to Kodama.
So I am confused as to the best way to get there and what the additional charge would be with my JRP?there seems to be lots to see but on different parts of the island noth/ south, atamj plum festival etc.
If I use my JRP Shinkansen to Mishima and transfer to Izu-Hakone Railway this does not take me to where I need to get to.
I will have three days left on my JRP so Is it easier/ quicker cheaper to go to a decent beach and see a few sites (as I see they have a micro climate) from Tokyo or from Kyoto l/ Osaka as I need to plan my journey and factor in cost and book accomodation ASAP. Are are these trains usually booked by locals or tourists well in advance as I can only book when I land in Tokyo if I travel straight to shinjanken to book them? But maybe reservations are not allowed.
I would just like to see some greenery and some beaches before heading home