Arriving Osaka 1st May . Train straight to Tokyo 7 nights Tokyo. . 2 or 3 day trips from Tokyo. ie Hakone , Kamakura. Then Leave Tokyo on 8th May and go to Nikko , Nagano , takayama, Kanazawa, Kiso valley then Kyoto and fly out of Osaka on the 22nd May. Do you think we need a rail pass Thankyou Ed
Looks like you will be making a very nice trip!
With the JR-Pass you could make the following savings.
Osaka --> Tokyo ¥ 13,950
Tokyo Odawara return, for Hakone ¥ 7,680
Tokyo Kamakura return ¥ 1,780
Tokyo --> Nikko ¥ 5,630
Nikko --> Nagano ¥ 10,980
Nagano --> Takayama ¥ 11,290
Takayama --> Kanazawa ¥ 4,380
Kanazawa --> Narai (for Kiso valley) ¥ 12,450
Narai --> Kyoto ¥ 9,610
Kyoto --> Osaka ¥ 540
This adds up to a total of ¥ 78,290, the 21-day JR-Pass is ¥ 57,700 so you would be able to save ¥ 20,590.
I noticed that some of the route could be better, for instance the part from Kanazawa to the Kiso valley is a long ride, consider an overnight stop in Kyoto or Nagoya for instance to limit the amount of travel on a single day.
Hope this helps,
Our new itinerary. Train Osaka to Tokyo
Tokyo , Hakone Return. Tokyo, Kamakura Return Tokyo , Nagano Nagano, Matsumoto Matsumoto, Nakatsugawa Return Kanazawa , Kyoto Kyoto, Nara, Return Kyoto , Osaka airport.
We will catch buses from Matsumoto to Kanazawa.
Total 21 days. Do we need a Jr Pass Thankyou Ed
I see that you have shorted your itinerary somewhat.
Tokyo Odawara (station for Hakone, return) ¥ 7,680
Tokyo Kamakura (return) ¥ 1,780
Tokyo --> Nagano ¥ 8,170
Nagano --> Matsumoto ¥ 2,970
Kanazawa --> Kyoto ¥ 6,910
Kyoto Nara (return) ¥ 1,380
Kyoto --> Kansai Airport ¥ 3,480
This adds up to ¥ 32,370, If you do the above itinerary in 21 days I think you will be best of by buying normal tickets while you travel.
Hope this helps,
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