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Itinerary for Dec and which rail pass.

Storm41_sy
Storm41_sy
ongeveer 8 jaar geleden
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Hi there! Will be super thankful if you can run through my itinerary and recommend which pass I should get.

My rough itinerary for the Japan trip in Dec for 5A2C (include one elderly) is as follow:

Day 1: Reach Tokyo Narita at 7am (will be taking Keisei Line to hotel as there isn't a need to transfer, as recommended by Hotel); Tokyo City (Tokyo Tower, Shrine and maybe Imperior Palace);

Q: Should we get Pasmo or Suica card OR the 48-hour subway pass, since we will spend Day 1 & 2 in Tokyo City Centre?

Day 2: Tokyo City (Shibuya, Shinjuku, Harajuku)

Day 3: Hakone or Kawaguchiko (for views of Mt Fuji) - understand that a bus at Shinjuku is much easier and faster and less hassle. Which would be easier for us? Also, if time permits, we will go Gotemba outlet, which is near Hakone

Day 4: Tsukiji market, then Yokohama (or anywhere nearby Tokyo that u recommend?)

This is where I am stuck

Day 5: Shinkansen to Sapporo (4 + 3.5hrs) OR direct 1.5 hour flight?

If I am taking Shinkansen, I will activate the 7-day JR pass on Day 4. If I am taking flight, then I should get JR East-South Hokkaido 7- day rail pass?

Day 6: Noboribetsu and Lake Toya (or are these too far and nothing much during winter as we are not driving)

Day 7: Asahiyama Zoo (understand there is a bus going there, means no need for any rail pass, or the rail pass covers buses), back to Sapporo for Sapporo White Illumination

Day 8: GAO Centre, Tomamu OR Takino Suzuran Park or anywhere you can recommend for a day of sled, snow tubbing and snow fun for the kids? I heard Tomamu is overrun by lots of Chinese tourists. We do not need to ski.

Day 9: Otaru

Day 10: Sapporo

Day 11: morning flight home

So if i get JR 7-day pass, i will activate on Day 4 and it ends on Day 10.

If I fly internally to Sapporo, I get the JR East 7-day pass and activate on Day 5 and it ends on Day 11? Or no need to even get JR East pass? Just buy tickets from station?

Can you recommend which is the most price-saving way for us? I know my kids wanna take Shinkansen, so if I do not get the JR Pass, means we cannot take any Shinkansen?

My current concern is really about which pass to get that benefits us most. Also, is my itinerary workable or way too packed? Or is there anything that you wanna recommend us to go? We are very open to suggestions. Just that it must not be too tiring for the elderly (a little difficulty in walking too much and too far); the two kids are 5 & 8 years old.

Appreciate your time and advise. Look forward to hearing from you.

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Daniel-san
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ongeveer 8 jaar geleden
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Hi there,

I think the first thing to do here is to decide if you want to fly to Hokkaido or not, that will also help you decide for a Rail Pass. The JR Pass provides great value if you go up by Shinkansen to Hokkaido but would not be of use if you go by air. Air ticket prices do depend on the day that you travel and can vary a lot in price, therefor it is impossible to say which option is cheaper without knowing the exact air fare.

I don't have any concerns over your itinerary, it looks fine and workable to me. For instance Noboribetsu and Lake Toya can easily be visited by train.

The most popular place I know for snow fun in Hokkaido is Niseko, you can go there as a day trip from Sapporo without too much trouble.

Hope this helps,
Daniel

Storm41_sy
Storm41_sy
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ongeveer 8 jaar geleden

Thank you for your reply!

The airfare is estimated to be $135 one-way to Sapporo. We want to experience the Shinkansen, especially the kids. If we do fly to Sapporo, is there any short day trip out from Tokyo that we can do on the Shinkansen?

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Daniel-san
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ongeveer 8 jaar geleden
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Hi again,

Yes, there are different options. From 10 minutes on the Shinkansen between Tokyo - Yokohama to a bit further like Hakone (36). Or one way to Nikko (50). There are many options :)

Storm41_sy
Storm41_sy
4 post
ongeveer 8 jaar geleden

Ah, thank you for your advise again! Let me read up more... good night!

Storm41_sy
Storm41_sy
4 post
ongeveer 8 jaar geleden

Oops, can I just check.. if we do take the flight to Sapporo, do we get the JR East 7-day Hokkaido pass, or point to point purchase is good enough?

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Daniel-san
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ongeveer 8 jaar geleden
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Would likely be cheaper to buy tickets but depends on what route.

Also consider a Tokyo Wide Pass, some Shinkansen are included.


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