Tokyo > Kyoto > Hakone on 7 day pass?Three of us (myself and my 14 and 21 year old kids) are flying in to Narita on June 29 and taking a Shinkansen from Tokyo to Kyoto on July 1 (Sunday) coming back to Tokyo on July 3 and going up to Hakone. We are leaving Hakone to go to Tokyo on July 5th. We will be in Tokyo until we leave for Seattle on July 9. Question 1: Is it worth it to buy a JR Pass and if it is should I get a 7 day pass? When should I get it? I'm leaving for Kyoto on a Sunday. Question 2: If I want a Green Car, should I buy it ahead of time or can I wait until I get there? What is the cost and is it worth it? I didn't want to chance not getting a seat and ending up in a smoking car. Question 3: How do I get to Hakone from Kyoto? Can I take a Shinkansen? Question 4: How do I get from Hakone to Tachikawa? Question 5: Is my 14 year old considered an adult? Question 6: Can I use the pass in all the lines around Tokyo including buses? Thank you so much for considering these questions! Sam |
samuel
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Hi Sam! Based on your itinerary I'd say you could make good savings with a 7 day rail pass for use starting as soon as you arrive in Tokyo on the 29th until the 5th of July where you return from Hakone. For a 7 day rail pass to start making savings for you, you need to spend over ¥28,300 on individual JR tickets. To confirm your savings, lets take a look at your projected costs (note that for Hakone, the JR Pass will take you as far as Odawara. From Odawara you should use the Odakyu lines to get up to the Hakone area, perhaps using a Hakone Free Pass):
TOTAL: ¥29360 for 4 legs As you can see you'll make a basic saving of ¥1060 using the 7 day pass, with the added bonus that any further JR travel during this period will be totally free (such as JR travel around Tokyo, or day trips to Hiroshima, Nara or Nikko). Here are some thoughts on your other questions:
Hope this helps! |
mari
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Thank you so much Mari. I feel so much better with all the information that you gave me! I heard that JR West (Hikari)doesn't have Green Car? Will that effect me in any way with the itinerary given? If I was to purchase a Green Car pass, would I still need to make reservations for Sunday, July 1? I heard that Green Cars are usually not full. We were interested in riding the newest Shinkansen. Are they all new? Is it true that Tokyo to Kyoto Shinkansen leaves every few minutes? I live in Seattle, when will I recieve the pass if I ordered it today? Thank you! Sam |
samuel
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Hi Sam, It is true that JR-West doesn't run it's Hikari with Green Cars, however the JR-East operated Hikari service does have green car available - approx. one per hour. This will affect your ability to always use green car seats as not all Hikari services will have them. Green Car seats always require a reservation, so you would always need to make one regardless of how busy the carriage is. Making a seat reservation is a simple process and you can make one just before you board. We also have a blog post on making seat reservations. The Hikari service on the Kyoto-Tokyo route are all the latest N700 class bullet trains so I don't think you'll miss out in this regard. Valid Hikari Tokyo to Kyoto Shinkansen services run approximately twice per hour, but you can look up exact train timetables and costs for your legs at the Hyperdia travel planning website and learn how to use Hyperdia for Japan Rail Pass holders through our video blog. Delivery to Seattle US will take 2 working days (1 day process + 1 day delivery). This means that if you were to order today you should receive it by Tuesday, or Wednesday at the latest. Hope this helps! |
mari
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Thank you for all your help Mari! I'm very impressed with the detailed help you have given me. You are very much appreciated! Gratefully, Sam |
samuel
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Not a problem Sam - have a great trip! |
mari
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